let’s talk about money

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This post was first published in July 2011. It was last updated in October 2013 along with a downloadable Excel document of our budget:ย 

It can be hard to talk about money matters, even with the people that you are closest to – money can be a sensitive topic! But Chris and I are an open book when it comes to our finances. We are very meticulous with budgeting and planning for our financial future. We even like to have “budget meetings” over scones at our favorite coffee shop and talk about long-term financial goals.

Of course there’s no one right way to manage finances. Depending on your short-term and long-term goals and your income you have to make the best decisions for you. But I hope that by sharing a bit about how we manage our finances others might find some helpful strategies.

I talked about how we organize our bank accounts in this post. Now I’d like to share our financial numbers:

Salaries

Kelsey: $54,000 / year as a science writer for a large public university.

Chris: $76,377.60 / 9-month school year as an assistant professor.
Chris receives additional pay based on any contracted summer effort, such as teaching a summer class or conducting research related to a grant. Therefore, his summer pay varies year by year but itโ€™s been an average of $12,000/summer.

In 2012 our combined income was $129,000.

Paychecks

Kelsey: $1,398.08 (after taxes and deductions)

Chris: $2,300 (after taxes and deductions) – note this is during his 9-month contract, during the summer it varies and depends on his effort (i.e. teaching, reasearch)

House

Purchased for $200,000 in July 2009.

We put $20,000 (10%) down and have a 5.25%, 30-year, fixed interest rate.

Our total monthly payment (principal + interest + taxes + insurance) is $1,243.

Loans

Chris and I each have student loans which together total approximately $100,000 (which gives me slight heart palpitations).

The total monthly payment is $670.

Credit Card Debt

None! If we use our credit cards we pay them off the same month (or even within days of making a purchase) and never carry a balance. Currently we each have a Chase Sapphire card, which weโ€™re using to accrue points (and hopefully take an awesome vacation) and I have a Chase Southwest Visa that I use to earn travel on Southwest airlines.

Savings

Chris and I maintain a total of four savings accounts for personal, short-term, and long-term savings.

Currently we have $13,655 in our long-term/emergency savings.

We are currently working towards saving up at least six months of expenses in our long-term/emergency savings account.

Cars

I drive a 2008 Prius (that I wanted for a long time!) that I bought for $15,500; I put down $7,000 and borrowed $8,500. I owe $6,200 on my car and make a $300 / month payment.

Chris drives a 2004 Chevy Colorado that is paid off.  

Retirement Accounts

Chris and I each have retirement accounts through work and separate Roth IRA accounts.

Through work, Chris contributes 11% of his paycheck to the state retirement system and receives a 9% match that will be fully vested after 10 years of service. After 10 years he will also be guaranteed a pension from the state when he retires.

I contribute 7% of each paycheck to a 401(a) account and receive a 7% match. It will be 100% vested after 5 years of service. I also contribute an additional 3% to a 403(b) but that one does not receive an employer match.

Across all of these accounts combined we currently have about $112,000 saved for retirement. (This includes vested amounts; Chris is currently 40% vested and I am 0% vested.)

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So there you have it! I think we’re doing a pretty good job managing our money but of course there’s always room for improvement. Iโ€™m definitely looking forward to the comfort of having 6-8 months of living expenses saved up in our emergency savings account.

I’m happy to answer any questions about how we manage our finances. Please leave a comment or send me an email at hellorisingshining{at}gmail{dot}com

18 responses to “let’s talk about money”

  1. Cassandra Avatar

    I’m enjoying browsing through your blog. I found you via your comment on Feeding the Soil.

    1. Kelsey Avatar

      Thanks so much for stopping by! Sara is definitely one of my blogging inspirations ๐Ÿ™‚

  2. Stephanie Avatar

    This is so brave. Thanks for posting and giving us perspective. I love when bloggers are honest about themselves . Blogging can often be quite the facade, especially for young women pressured to look good and make others think their lives are perfect! You’re in a much better financial situation than me, so I am a bit jealous! Haha! But it’s so nice to see some real honesty. Good for you!

    1. Kelsey Avatar

      Stephanie – thanks so much for your comment! That really means a lot. It was kind of scary sharing what is usually such personal information but it’s liberating in a way too. I’m such a planner/researcher and before making decisions I love getting several perspectives, I hope that sharing our approach to finances will help others as they figure out what works for them. I’m also really open to feedback from readers about how we could improve our finances and what works/doesn’t work for others.

      P.S. Just checked out your blog, love your honesty and planning tendencies, can definitely relate!

  3. Jen Avatar

    Wow Kelsey! You are such a brave person for sharing this information. It is so refreshing to see another young couple’s financial perspective! My husband and I are in a very similar financial situation as you and your husband. Reading your story helps me feel more normal! Thank you!

    Jen

    1. Kelsey Avatar

      Jen – You’re so welcome and thanks for stopping by! I love being able to talk openly about finances and connect with other young couples to see how they manage finances so I’m glad to hear that you guys have a similar approach too. Happy financial planning ๐Ÿ™‚

  4. Kim Avatar

    I love how organized you are! I am the financial planner in my marriage, and we have everything combined. Now that I’m a stay-at-home mama, our budget has definitely changed! I think your budget is great!

  5. Nora Avatar

    I appreciate your honesty and openness. It is a brave thing. I enjoyed stumbling on your blog. I wanted to add some context for those (like me) who might find your budget somewhat hard to relate to, even while we might view saving and budgeting as incredibly important. Your household income is in the top 10-15% of all household incomes in the US. Alone on just your spouse’s salary, your household income would still be in the top 35% of household incomes in the US. Alone on just your salary, you’d still be well above average as a household. So it would be hard for most to use your finances as a model. I love that bloggers are talking more openly about finances. I’m adding this comment in hopes to adding to an open dialogue about money, and learning from one another on money management/ savings in a way that’s useful to people of all income levels.

    1. Kelsey Avatar

      Nora, thank you so much for your comment. Chris and I structured our spending and saving around our particular finances, but you’re right: the model I put up on this blog is specific to us. Even if our specific budget doesn’t work for everyone, I hope that the basics of budgeting and of making financial goals, no matter how big or small, can have some relevance to anyone. What I definitely want to foster is an open discussion about finances and I really appreciate the context that you offer in your comment and that you are continuing the conversation.

  6. Nora Avatar

    Hi Kelsey –

    I wanted to write a follow-up to the previous message I sent. In retrospect, I seriously appreciate that you are so transparent about your finances. It puts you open to criticism, but it’s also incredibly helpful. It’s the first place I turned when my spouse and I started talking seriously about buying a house with a 10-year mortgage, to figure out what other categories of expenses we’d need to consider in our budget. Anyway, thanks for the resource you’ve created, and your openness.

    1. Kelsey Avatar

      Hi Nora, Thanks so much for your comment! I’m so glad you found my budget helpful! I’m always so curious how other people are prioritizing spending and how they allocate funds. I love researching things and getting lots of opinions and found that when it comes to financial matters most people don’t share so I thought I’d better start with myself! Best of luck budgeting and buying a house!

  7. Angie Avatar

    Let me try that again, since it’s early and I can’t type :o)

    Love the blog, babe :o) Quick question….for your student loans, are you on a standard repayment plan or is it graduated? Meaning, are you paying interest only?

    1. Kelsey Avatar

      Thanks so much! I have two student loans, one is on a fixed, 10 year repayment plan ($88/month) and the other is on a fixed, 25 year (so long!) repayment play ($276/month). So I’m paying principal and interest although not much principal right now since I’m early in repayment. Chris is also on a fixed, 25 year repayment plan and also pays principal and interest.

  8. Angie Avatar

    Thanks! What are the interest rates? I have my loans consolidated at 6.5% and I pay $340 a month in interest only!!! OMG! I only have 65k. I must be doing something wrong. I consolidated with the feds (suppose to get the best rate) but I think I did something wrong :o(

    1. Kelsey Avatar

      Hmmm, are you on a shorter time span maybe? I believe my bigger loan, on the 25 year repayment, is a rate of 7% or 7.5% and I started with a total of about $37K. Mine are also consolidated with the fed (Direct Loan, now managed by Mohela). My smaller loan, ~$8K, is at 5% and is still managed by Yale (it was a Perkins loans). It will be repaid in 10 years.

  9. Angie Avatar

    Hummm…..:o)

  10. Emily Avatar

    Hi Kelsey- It’s so amazing that you were transparent with your finances! Honestly, I’m so sick of reading financial advice from blogs and other sources with the headlines of ‘How to Save’ and ‘A Breakdown of our Finances’ and I delve into the article only to get…nothing. It’s super brave of you to share, and at the same time I always think- why don’t more people do this? If we did, maybe there wouldn’t be such a stigma!
    I use an excel monthly budget that I created as well (glad I’m not the only one who does this!) Also, I was super happy to hear that you all have separate checking accounts and a joint account- that’s just what my husband and I do! Some of my friends think it’s so weird, but it works perfectly for us. ๐Ÿ™‚
    Sorry for such a long comment- I’m just thrilled to have found your blog!

    1. Kelsey Avatar

      Emily! Thank you so much. Those are the exact reasons that I wanted to blog so honestly about finances and I completely agree that if everyone was more open about finances the world would be better ๐Ÿ™‚ And perhaps we would attach less self-worth to money and material things? Might be reaching there ๐Ÿ™‚ We actually just changed up our bank accounts a bit and now have one combined checking but still separate savings, I recently wrote a post about it. But for a long time having the separate accounts was so great so yes, stick to what works for you even if others don’t get it!

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